Saturday, August 14, 2004

Here is the Hypnotizing

Here is the Hypnotizing


formula that brings the nothing
that is its self and flows
a way with infer and smother
these singular phrasings under wilt
it branches towards the widening
of stream aloft goes bracing
and here is the equation
of clarity and bring about
until parcels hold against
the marble of solid trees
over an ocean swinging
current and starch button
and breaking bridges
the double plastic reduction
that only places of stop
not force will refer here
in the remainder of the middle
passages like moonshot again
plastic dirt much like so
very drip spout with
doughnut box and slippers
inside complaining case of pillows
with interrupt and the letter pause

7 Comments:

Blogger Jes said...

One of the most striking things is the line breaks stuffed with condensed images at both ends of the break. The tone is very strong.

4:43 PM  
Blogger Jes said...

Chandler, some people do not get the way this poem works because they are fiction or non fiction people. Can you write a little blurb about contemporary poetry, perhaps a synopsis of the direction of poetry post EP, post WCW, post Cage, post New York School... Or maybe an entry into poetry of language versus meaning? It seems to me that the language here creates a perception more than an understanding. No?

1:45 PM  
Blogger BloggerRM said...

I cannot sum up modern poetry since Ezra Pound, but I will say this about language; language is what it infers, not what it means. There is nothing else to say because the saying is loaded. What is taken and what is meant are independent. Ok, so there was something else to say.

4:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha! Talk about cryptic. "There is nothing else to say because the saying is loaded." Yes, you are a poet! And at 4:00 a.m. We troglydyte prosers say, "thanks, anyway." I'm guessing what you might be saying--and I'll lock and load and take a shot in the interest of non-poets enjoying future postings by your new poet friends-- is that poetry post-Pound is not about the narrative, storytelling-style, as prose writers live and breathe, but about playing with words and sounds and spaces like an artist with paints or legos and the impact thereof ???? Poets? Class?

11:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon,

Merely playing with sound makes the writer a jockey, a sound jockey, for poetry to sing, it has to be more than that. On the one hand, I appreciate the playfulness of John Cage, and the departure from the Romantic tradition, nevertheless, what has happened as a result of that kind of work is that people want to "get" poetry, but they can't/won't get it. Therefore, they don't buy it and they don't read it. Poetry dies on the vine. In the same way that people want to "get" contemporary art, they just don't get it either. They aren't prepared for it, aren't ready to dive in to the wreck, so to speak.

One thing to do is to look at what the writing is 'doing.' How it is working? Also, in the same way a painting can create a mood, one has to allow the poetry to do the same. It isn't linear, then again, sometimes it is completely linear. But, what is it accomplishing?
Another thing, in Peter Gizzi's class, students were told to write in a way that serves the poem. The poem requires the writer to serve it, not the other way around. Weird huh? If the writer serves the poem, the poem will work.

Lastly, there are many good (and short) criticisms of poetry perhaps we should look at some of those things.

9:21 AM  
Blogger Jes said...

If you read all these you will go blind.
The first one is a pun on L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E -


I=N=C=O=H=E=R=E=N=T
How Contemporary American Poets Are Denaturing the Poem
Part II

http://www.webdelsol.com/LITARTS/Boston_Comment/bostonc2.htm

This one downloads to your computer as a document, but my mac wouldn't do it and I haven't tried the PC. Look for Cante Moro

[DOC] Critical Inquiry Volume 28, Number 3, Spring 2002
File Format: Microsoft Word 2000 - View as HTML
... 43. See Mackey, "Cante Moro," in Disembodied Poetics: Annals of the Jack Kerouac
School, ed. Anne Waldman and Andrew Schelling (Albuquerque, 1994), p. 78. 44. ...
www.ubu.com/ethno/discourses/syntax_of_scat.doc - Similar pages


Language poetry-
One view and explanation:
http://www.poetrypreviews.com/poets/language.html

New York School (Very Sarcastic)
Partying on Parnassus: The New York School
http://www.newcriterion.com/archive/17/oct98/simon.htm


The Geneology of Postmodernism: Contemporary American Poetry
Albert Gelpi
http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/gelpi.html

10:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

troglodyte
and now who
is in a cave better
or maybe safer
but where is this hole
but on the earth
smaller and less
becoming is only
the mind finds
itself is alone
but the fire
always the flame

2:55 PM  

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